tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1221457117656192914.post5287601909033129472..comments2023-08-29T12:12:07.545+01:00Comments on Skavenblight: As promised, the (MSU) Skaven Combat Army.Archnomadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08574193516836780319noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1221457117656192914.post-28254696843907348182010-09-29T20:22:55.325+01:002010-09-29T20:22:55.325+01:00I haven't tried the bonebreaker either. And wh...I haven't tried the bonebreaker either. And while LV4 mages are all kinds of kickass, I don't think it's totally essential. Most mages are easy to bump off if you put your mind to it.<br /><br />Honestly, I think you are probably right. I'm just debating whether or not I want a Verminlord in my shooty MSU list. He does fit the style pretty well, but I wouldn't like having him without the Stormbanner. I have one written up with a Seer at the moment. It's looking nice in my opinion. I'll post it shortly.<br /><br />Thanks for the feedback by the way!Archnomadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08574193516836780319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1221457117656192914.post-6847543460311748222010-09-29T19:01:10.711+01:002010-09-29T19:01:10.711+01:00I have not tried the Bonebreaker. I have heard lo...I have not tried the Bonebreaker. I have heard lots of people talk about it, but am just not sure what kind/size of unit to put him in (or how I would convert one up, which is my real issue).<br /><br />I would not try the triple bonebreaker though. Level 4 mages are just so useful in 8th. A level 2 just does not cut it nearly as well.<br /><br />I had been trying a close-combat focused Skaven army in 7th, and was not satisfied with the results. I can see problems solved in 8th that prevented my success in 7th, but I just still do not see the close combat army working as well. Far too many armies are better in close combat than Skaven.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08325595563469580156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1221457117656192914.post-33439012206846509942010-09-29T17:50:29.674+01:002010-09-29T17:50:29.674+01:00You do have a valid point, but the only thing I...You do have a valid point, but the only thing I'd really like to add to this list is more gutter runners and jezzails. Maybe a lvl2. After that it'd be slave filler. Bear in mind if you're used to 2.5k then 2k lists can look small, but 2k is the standard where I play. =]<br /><br />As to PWGs to Stormvermin, the PWGs usually accomplish more than the stormvermin, all told. The ability to march and shoot, as well as be a skirmisher is pretty good. Keeping the 4+ ward is a valid point, but all the ward saves against is the odd small unit firing, or a fireball or something. Otherwise the weapon team will die anyway. I find keeping the team out of LoS is infinitely preferable. <br /><br />Spitballed idea, what do we think of running Rogre Bonebreaker warlords as single models, with a halberd? For 161 pts you get 4 T5 wounds, and 9S5 attacks, plus stomp. Just think, you could fit in 3 of those. I'm just trying to think "MSU". It's something I want to test anyway. <br /><br />But still, a close combat oriented skaven army was (for me) always going to be much harder to make than the shooty one. So when I do bring the shooty one out, it'll probably be pretty standard.<br /><br />I really do want to try that 3xbonebreaker list though. That could be a right laugh.Archnomadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08574193516836780319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1221457117656192914.post-59502663353347433952010-09-29T11:58:32.639+01:002010-09-29T11:58:32.639+01:00I have been looking at this, and while I think it ...I have been looking at this, and while I think it is do-able, I just think attempting this at 2K is not good. You can probably make it work at 2.5K, but you just do not have the points to really round the list out.<br /><br />I would suggest changing the PWGs for a 10 man Stormvermin unit by dropping a single Jezzail from the 4 man unit. That would give you more bodies and keep the mortar with it's 4+ ward a bit longer.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08325595563469580156noreply@blogger.com